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Old 02-10-2006, 02:43 PM
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[Good News] Temporary ban turned off for one month

Dear BT members,

On public demand and considering the fact that we should give our members enough time to increase their ratio, we have decided to postpone "Torrent temporary ban" for ONE month. So,jump in and download+upload as much as possible in this time period and utilize the opportunity to get a good ratio under your nick.

We would like to tell you that this temporary ban feature is neither to prevent you from downloading nor we gonna make any profit from it :BigGrin: Rather we want more people to come and download from here. It has been imposed just to make the torrents as well as the site alive.

Hope you all will understand and cooperate us to make BT the best place around the net.

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Old 02-10-2006, 03:24 PM
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Let me the first guy to welcome this decision:) . Although, :idea2: it late but effective. Hope every body will like it. Also the users with poor ratio may increase their ratio.:bestwishe
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Old 02-10-2006, 08:39 PM
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Ratio Issue

Just want to make a few points. Some are already raised by others.
These are the few hurdles to raising one's ratio as I experienced.

1. Most popular DSL/Cable plan has much lower upload bandwidth (half or less) compared to download speed. So one has to wait quite a long time to
be at 1:1. This would be ok if it was just that.

2. In most cases, seeding opportunities are available only with the new releases. This creates a competition and hence further slows down or stops uploading altogether for some of the seeders, especially when Seeders > Leechers. I am not sure how bit torrent manages the uploading from many seeders, but I am sure it favors the ones with higher upload bandwidth, this further puts quite a few people with not so fast upload speed at disadvantage compared to the ones who already have good ratio due to better ISP.

3. Trying to seed older stuff doesn't work either. Unless there are people waiting to download, one cannot seed continuously given the huge number of files. This also depends on other factors as to how old the file is and whether one has it in his/her possession.

4. That leaves only one other viable way to raise ratio, which is to keep releasing new stuff. This is not always possible for known reasons such as availability and time it takes to convert videos and release new torrents.
Besides, not everyone lives in Jackson Heights and has a cousin with a Bengali video store. If people are to release everything they have regardless of good or bad just to raise ratio, the quality of average torrents will suffer greatly as was seen lately.

In my opinion, Bit-Torrent is a great platform to share many things. Given the fact that everyone lives in a unique situation, coercive measures to force everyone to follow a certain rule will work against the growth and robustness of the site and many people will turn away and move to other sites which are less rigid. As you can see seeding and leeching are now significantly down from what it used to be. Time limit placed on leeching for low ratio was a much better approach in my view to encourage seeding. Most releases were well-seeded and ban was not at all needed. Just my two cents...
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With the new BT site i can not see my ratio. Is there any problem with membership ? Other members post can see the upload and download ratio but with my post I can't see it. Can some body explain me ?
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Just want to make a few points. Some are already raised by others.
These are the few hurdles to raising one's ratio as I experienced.
1. Most popular DSL/Cable plan has much lower upload bandwidth (half or less) compared to download speed. So one has to wait quite a long time to
be at 1:1. This would be ok if it was just that.
2. In most cases, seeding opportunities are available only with the new releases. This creates a competition and hence further slows down or stops uploading altogether for some of the seeders, especially when Seeders > Leechers. I am not sure how bit torrent manages the uploading from many seeders, but I am sure it favors the ones with higher upload bandwidth, this further puts quite a few people with not so fast upload speed at disadvantage compared to the ones who already have good ratio due to better ISP.
3. Trying to seed older stuff doesn't work either. Unless there are people waiting to download, one cannot seed continuously given the huge number of files. This also depends on other factors as to how old the file is and whether one has it in his/her possession.
4. That leaves only one other viable way to raise ratio, which is to keep releasing new stuff. This is not always possible for known reasons such as availability and time it takes to convert videos and release new torrents.
Besides, not everyone lives in Jackson Heights and has a cousin with a Bengali video store. If people are to release everything they have regardless of good or bad just to raise ratio, the quality of average torrents will suffer greatly as was seen lately.
In my opinion, Bit-Torrent is a great platform to share many things. Given the fact that everyone lives in a unique situation, coercive measures to force everyone to follow a certain rule will work against the growth and robustness of the site and many people will turn away and move to other sites which are less rigid. As you can see seeding and leeching are now significantly down from what it used to be. Time limit placed on leeching for low ratio was a much better approach in my view to encourage seeding. Most releases were well-seeded and ban was not at all needed. Just my two cents...
hmmm...good analysis bhai.much appreciated.
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nice decision. it will promote members to increase their ratio. greatly appreciated.
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thanks admin atleast ratio baranor shujog debar jonne.
kintu problem holo notun natok gula o mone hoi kom download hochche. eto gula natok seed korchi kintu beshir bhag e upload nai. bujhlam na hothat ki holo.
"Taposhbhai" amar problem may be chilo firewall porblem. firewall tule deyate ekhon atleast satisfactory condition e ache. dekha jak ki hoi. thanks u a lot for helping me.
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problem hoilo seed diya boiya thaki sara rat kono banda ahe na,
ami ei niya somossay asi, keu jodi download na kore taile ami sara bochor seed koira geleo amar ratio komte thakbe.
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problem hoilo seed diya boiya thaki sara rat kono banda ahe na,
ami ei niya somossay asi, keu jodi download na kore taile ami sara bochor seed koira geleo amar ratio komte thakbe.
seed the new files likes Amader Anondo Bari or H Ahmed's Kala Koitor which were released today and there are a lot of leechers.

visit "Reseed List" often and see which files need seed. you will gain your ratio by this method.
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1. Most popular DSL/Cable plan has much lower upload bandwidth (half or less) compared to download speed. So one has to wait quite a long time to
be at 1:1. This would be ok if it was just that.
This is the main problem for most of us

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3. Trying to seed older stuff doesn't work either. Unless there are people waiting to download, one cannot seed continuously given the huge number of files. This also depends on other factors as to how old the file is and whether one has it in his/her possession.
Very true. tried to seed ronger manush for long time and hardly anyone was there to download them
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Red face If I May...

Please consider this: I initially joined here, to download Romizer Ayna. I got them (1-49 so far), and in doing so ended up with ratio of 0.16. Very bad ratio compared to 1.1. Initially I didn't think that anything else would be worth getting from here, and now I do. BUT, since my ratio was off, I could not download anything else for the past 4 days. So, in order to be able to do that, I've been seeding 2-3 torrents (all romizer ayna) for the last whole week. And at the end until my pc died, my ratio was 0.24

Do you realize some problem with this logic here? Romizer Ayna may not be the most popular thing on the planet, or I might be one of the few ones left to finally get it. This means very few will download it to get my ratio up. If the temp ban is solely based on ratio then this in turn implies that leechers must leech contents of VARIOUS kinds. That means I should've gotten some parts of Romizer Ayna and other parts of the most popular downloads, just so I could seed them later to make my ratio higher. Does this make sense? Why should one be forced to download something they dont' need?

A better way to reduce leech-only attitude might be, to just requiring leechers whose ratio is not > 1.0 to seed the content for at least some amount of time (e.g. 1 week) after which they do not have to seed anymore if they don't want to, even if the ratio is not > 1.0
This is one suggestion, I am sure there are plenty of other ideas.

With the current strategy, I may not download anything else again for months/years? from here (well if I can keep interest that long), if enough leechers with new interest in Romizer Ayna (episodes 1-49, the ones I got) are not around.

If downloading stuff is made harder then people will be likely to go the mile (with the dough) to buy the stuff instead of downloading them. This might be true, but I am sure you don't give a .... about that. So, why make it harder? Should employ a better strategy to achieve fairness. What do you think?
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Does this make sense? Why should one be forced to download something they dont' need?
Not true,no one is forced.spend more time on this site...you'll learn lot of things.

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With the current strategy, I may not download anything else again for months/years?

If you meant,you may not able to download..... then it's also Not Ture.

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If downloading stuff is made harder then people will be likely to go the mile (with the dough) to buy the stuff instead of downloading them.
Also Not True,Check the members list.

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but I am sure you don't give a .... about that.
Absolutely False

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Should employ a better strategy to achieve fairness. What do you think?
Every thing has it's opposite side,as well as technology has good n bad effects too.Electricity was invented for the benefits of human civilization,though you may find unexpected incidents everyday.
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there are so many seeders for ramizer ayna. i could not seed ramizer ayna after completing download
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there are so many seeders for ramizer ayna. i could not seed ramizer ayna after completing download
Visit "Reseed List" often and see what files need seeding. Seed those files! You will get many people who need seeding. This is the best way to increase your ratio!!!
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Visit "Reseed List" often and see what files need seeding. Seed those files! You will get many people who need seeding. This is the best way to increase your ratio!!!
I am a new user. I downloaded romizer ayna and 2 other movies only. I can not seed completely and i am facing waiting hours:(:(:(
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